Buses to the Quay: The wait goes on….

Stagecoach service 4 on the very short section of the Quay that does have a bus service

Residents of the major housing developments that have taken place along the Quay in Lancaster face an even longer wait for their bus service.

Over the last ten years, almost 500 new homes have been built as part of the Luneside East and Luneside West development, built, sustainably, on the “brownfield” site that was once a major idustrial area. That sustainability, however, hasn’t extended to the provision of a bus service.

Houses but no buses

Despite the size of the development, neither of the city’s two bus companies saw a commercial opportunity, so a bus service was always going to need public fuding, at least until it could become established.

The larger of the schemes, the 403-home Luneside East, did require a contribution of £625,000 for “sustainable transport improvements” from its developers. At the time, the council’s preference was for a “bus-only” bridge across the Lune, which would have allowed buses to and from Morecambe to run via the Quay, but this was never built and it is not clear what else the money was ever spent on. The housing deveopment was taking place during a period when Lancashire County Council was seeking to solve one of its financial crises by reducing support for buses, so no funding was available from that source.

From 2021 government support for bus services was provided through Bus Service Improvement Plans and then Local Bus Grant allocations. Lancashire County Council has received very significant funding as a result, but despite requests from The Bus Users’ Group it has declined to spend any of it on a service to Luneside.

Luneside Business Park

Starting in 2022, there was a major development and expansion of the Luneside Business Park at the very western end of the New Quay. Finally, this was a develpment that did require a contribution towards a bus service, with developer Hurstwood Holdings having to make £500,000 available to fund one. But despite the work being substantially complete, there have still been hurdles to cross before a bus service could start.

Turning Circle

The powers-that-be determined that before a bus service could start, a bespoke bus turning cicle would have to be provided at the end of the route near Thetis Road.. There were lengthy delays, reportedly due to issues over land ownership, but the circle has now been built and, as can be seen, it is to a very high standard.

The new turning circle at the Lune Business Park

Hopes that this had removed the final obstacle to providing a service have, however, proved premature. The Bus Users’ Group now understands that before the facility can be used it has to have street lighting installed. Whilst this has, reportedly, been commisioned there is, as yet, no date for completion.

Further Problems Ahead

Lancashire County Council’s public transport team is keen to see the service start. It has already entered into an agreement with a bus operator to provide a service six-days-a-week from early morning to late evening linking the Quay to the bus station and city centre, subject only to the developer funding being received.

This should be straightforward given that the development of the Business Park is complete, but there are now doubts. In early October, the developer Hurstwood Holdings (profits in 2025 £4.467m) submitted an application to the City Council for a “developer request for status of outstanding contribution amounts”. Its unclear what this somewhat technically-worded request actually means, but its doubtful that Hurstwood is seeking to pay a higher amount! It appears, therefore, that there is at least a question over how much of the £500,000 will actually be forthcoming and when it will be avalable.

Best Practice

Best practice on large-scale housing developments is that a bus service should be established at a very early stage, so that new residents can factor it in when developing travel patterns. A ten-year delay (at least) in provding a service makes it much harder for one to become established, as residents will have developed ways of doing without it (largely by driving everywhere) and will be reluctant to change.

At this time, despite the turning circle and an agreed timetable being in place, there is still no indication as to when a service will start.

Carnforth Closures Cause Confusion

Road Closures and diversions in November are confusing residents

UPDATE 11th November: We have been informed by Stagecoach that the road closure will NOT apply on Saturday or Sunday and that the buses will run as normal.

Road closures that necessitate bus service diversions have reportedly been confusing bus passengers in Bolton-le-Sands and Carnforth. Stagecoach staff have placed notices on the affected bus stops, but the message is complicated and difficult to get across on a single sheet of paper. The company’s website also explains the position, but in a slightly different way and, until the Bus Users’ Group pointed it out, neither mentioned the 555 -possibly Carnforth’s most important service! (This has been corrected on the website)

At the risk of further confusing the situation (we hope not!) here is our take on what will happen.

Lancashire County Council’s official closure notice

The A6 will be CLOSED during the above dates and times between Bolton-le-Sands (Junction with the Coastal Road to Morecambe) and Carnforth cross roads. In the absence of further information, it appears that the closure applies for the full seven days, including the weekend of 14th/15th November, even though the timings seem to have been chosen so as not to interfere with work or school traffic during the week.

Bus diversions

The following diversions will apply between Wednesday 11th and Wednesday 18th November EXCEPT Saturday 14th and Sunday 15th, when NORMAL SERVICE will operate.

Diverted bus services during the closures

For a scrollable version that you can zoom in on for detail please click this link Carnforth diversions – Google My Maps

Service 5 (Overton – Carnforth)

This service will operate only between Overton and the “Grange View” bus stop at the junction of the A6 and the Coastal Road, south of Bolton-le-Sands. There will be NO SERVICE between this point and Carnforth, Windermere Road.

Alternatives: Passengers from Heysham and Morecambe to Carnforth can use diverted service 755 (see below). Passengers between Carnforth and Windermere Road can use service 49 to/from Highfield Road.

Service 49 Lancaster – Halton – Warton

This service will be unable to stop at New Street or Carnforth station (Haws Hill) going towards Warton. Passengers for thse stops should use Market Street (Stop 6). Journeys towards Lancaster are unaffected.

Service 51 Carnforth – Silverdale

This service will start and finish at Carnforth Railway Station Car Park. Stops at the War Memorial, New Street and Haws Hill will not be served.

Service 55 (Lancaster – Carnforth)

This service will operate between Lancaster and Slyne Road only, terminating at “Townend” northbound, with southbound journeys commencing at Greenwood Crescent. There will be NO SERVICE through to Carnforth.

Alternatives: Passengers from Lancaster to Carnforth can use service 49 (see above). Passengers from Slyne Road to Carnforth can use diverted service 755.

Service 555 Lancaster – Keswick

This service will be diverted between Beaumont Bridge (Lancaster) and Carnforth (Pine Lake) via the route on the map below

It will not serve any stops along the A6 between the A6/Bay Gateway Junction north of Beaumont and Pine Lake, including Carnforth town centre.

Alternatives: Passengers between Lancaster and Carnforth should use service 49. Passengers travelling between affected stops on the A6 between the Bay Gateway and Bolton-le-Sands Townend should use diverted service 755 (see below).

Passengers between Windermere or Kendal and Carnforth can use service 755. Other passengers from north of Carnforth should either transfer to service 755 at Kendal or travel via Lancaster and use service 49 from there.

The Bus Users’ Group has asked that service 555 continues to serve Carnforth centre by following the same route as the 755 to and from Jc 35 (see below).

Service 755 (Heysham – Bowness-on-Windermere)

This service will be diverted between “Grange View”, Jc of theCoastal Road and A6 south of Bolton-le-Sands via the route on the map below.

It will not serve any of the stops on A6 between St. Michaels Lane and New Street, Carnforth. In Carnforth it will stop at Market Street (Stop 6 Northbound; Stop 7 Southbound) and resume normal route via Scotland Road.

You can check the location of the bus stops in central Carnforth on this graphic

CENTRAL CARNFORTH BUS STOPS

Service 49: Towards Warton – Stop 6

Towards Lancaster – Stops 3 and 7

Service 51: Towards Silverdale – Station car park (not numbered on plan)

Service 755: Towards Kendal and Bowness – Stops 6 and 5

Towards Heysham – Stops 4 and 7

NOTE: Stops 2 8 and 9 will not be served during the closure periods.

The Service Update from Stagecoach’s website is here.

Lonsdale Buses service 85 (Lancaster-Morecambe-Carnforth) will be suspended during the closures

The 1000, 1200 and 1400 hrs journeys from Lancaster to Carnforth will be CANCELLED

The 1100 and 1300 hrs journeys from Carnforth to Lancaster will be CANCELLED

Other journeys will operate as normal.