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  • Tree trouble at Hest Bank

    Buses on the 55 are being diverted at Hest Bank due to problems with trees

    Passengers at Hest Bank wishing to travel to Lancaster or Carnforth on service 55 will have a long walk to a bus stop from next week when Stagecoach introduces a further diversion on the service.

    Problems began earlier in the month when overhanging trees on Peacock Lane caused difficulties for the double-deckers resulting in at least one broken window. The recent heavy rain has exacerbated the problem. Buses were initially diverted via Shady Lane, meaning that stops at the Memorial Hall, Peacock Lane and Sunningdale Avenue could not be served. Whilst recognising the inconvenience to passengers, Stagecoach say that they felt that safety was paramount.

    The initial diversion, with missed stops shown at the top

    Unfortunately, further problems were encountered and so from Saturday, 13th June a further diversion will see buses using Throstle Grove instead. This means that unless some temporary stops are provided at Hasty Brow, the only stop on the Hest Bank loop off the A6 still being served will be Beech Grove, which is only just off the main road anyway.

    Tree Lopping

    The diversion is said to be “until further notice”, but the Bus Users’ Group understands that Stagecoach is holding urgent discussions with Lancashire County Council, with a site meeting being held to identify the problem trees being held next week. The situation is potentially complicated by it being the bird nesting season. Tree work is only possible between April and August providing that it can be shown that nesting birds are unaffected. Our Group will be supporting Stagecoach by stressing to Lancashire County Council the serious affect that the diversion is having on passengers.

    Single deckers?

    Only double-deck buses are affected, but these are standard for the 55, at least during the daytime. Stagecoach tell us that they have only a limited number of single-deckers and these are needed for routes such as the 4 and 49 that have to negotiate low bridges. Some of the smaller single deckers might not have the capacity for the 55. The company also feels that having the diversion operating only at certain times of the day would prove confusing for passengers.

    Alternatives

    Everyone concerned hopes that the situation can be resolved quickly, but if it drags on we would hope that Stagecoach will reconsider the use of Shady Lane and/or single deckers. We also suggest that a temporary stop could be erected at the Hasty Brow junction, which is at least a bit nearer to the village.

    Passengers from Peacock Lane do have the alternative of walking to the Coastal Road to pick up service 5 if going to Carnforth and should the problem persist beyond the 6th July they may find that Lonsdale Buses’ revised 85 service a means of getting to Lancaster as well.

  • Lonsdale Buses extends service 85 to Lancaster

    The 85 Carnforth to Morecambe service is being extended to Lancaster.

    Lonsdale Buses is to extend its 85 service, which currently runs between Carnforth and Morecambe, through to Lancaster. The revised route and timetable will be introduced on 6th July, following requests from passengers according to the company’s website.

    The revised service will provide through buses to Lancaster from stops along the Coastal Road and Marine Drive between Bare and Hest Bank. It is not clear from the website what route buses will take between Morecambe and Lancaster, nor has the actual timetable been announced, although the website promises a “regular service” six days a week.

    Better spacing of buses?

    At present, the 85 is timed to run just a few minutes ahead of Stagecoach’s long-established service 5 between Morecambe and Carnforth. The service revision is an obvious opportunity to correct this anomaly and give passengers a better choice of buses between these points, as well as the advantage of a through service to Lancaster from those sections of the route that do not currently enjoy this facility and we hope this will be the outcome.

    The new route and timetable will be posted on this website as soon as they are available.

  • Changed Priorities Ahead

    Bus passengers travelling north and west from Lancaster bus station are finding their journeys getting off to an easier start with a change in priority at the Damside Street exit.

    Every one of the County Council’s Bus Service Improvement Plans of the last few years has promised various bus priority measures on the city’s streets, although all of them seem to have been delayed or quietly abandoned following objections or lack of capacity to implement them. But suddenly, a scheme that hasn’t featured in any of them has appeared at the heart of the city’s bus network.

    Buses leaving the bus station via Damside Street have previously had to give way to traffic coming from their right. Damside Street isn’t the busiest of the city’s roads but buses have always had to approach the exit with the expectation that they would have to give way, which frequently they would be required to do.

    Now, however, “Give Way” markings have appeared on Damside Street and buses leaving the bus station now have the priority.

    A bus leaving the bus station onto Damside Street
    A Stagecoach bus takes advantage of the change in priority

    The actual time savings may be small (and buses using Damside Street to enter the bus station from Cable Street actually lose the priority they previously enjoyed) but as the saying goes: “Every little helps” and hopefully this is just the first of many measures to make life easier for the city’s bus drivers and passengers alike.

  • Park & Ride: Service cut and fares up

    Lancaster’s Park & Ride service, which links the Infirmary and the City Centre with the car park at Jc 34 of the M6 via Caton Road, will be cut back from Monday 6th July.

    The service will be reduced from every 15 minutes to every half hour. Ironically, for a service provided for the purpose of reducing traffic, the frequency is further reduced to one bus every 45 minutes at peak times due to the extra traffic at these times delaying the bus!

    The cuts will follow the ending of funding from the NHS, which since 2021 has allowed a second bus to be provided to run the 15 minute frequency and extend the service to the Infirmary from its previous terminus in the city centre. Despite the end of this funding, the Infirmary will still be served.

    At the time the funding was provided it was said to be temporary until such time as the NHS could improve staff car parking provision at the Infirmary, although now that it is ending there has been no statement to the effect that the extra parking is in place.

    The new timetable inevitably leads to a less attractive service. For example, a car driver arriving at the Car Park and just missing the 0740 bus into the city is expected to wait until 0820 for a bus with the following departure not until 0900.

    Heavily subsidised

    At the same time as the service quality is reduced, the cost is increased – with a return fare rising to £2.50 – although for a journey of just over 4km each way the fare remains far lower than every other bus fare in the city (and parking is, of course, free).

    The motorist is still therefore heavily subsidised and the Bus Users’ Group can’t help but wonder if the money couldn’t be better spent providing better bus services that everyone could use, rather than just those who already have an alternative means of transport.

  • Temporary Changes to Dales Bus 80

  • New Links to ASDA and Morecambe Prom.

    Lonsdale Buses service 83 is being re-routed to serve Salt Ayre / ASDA and Bare (c) Darren Hunt

    Lonsdale Buses service 83, linking Brookhouse and Morecambe, will have a new route and timetable from Tuesday, 5th May.

    The route is being changed to take in the ASDA superstore at Salt Ayre, Bare Lane station and Morecambe Promenade. From Torrisholme Road, buses will run down Scale Hall Lane to Morecambe Road and then via Ovangle Road to ASDA. Returning to Morecambe Road, the service will continue to The Shrimp roundabout and Bare Lane, Bare Crescent and along the Promenade to Central Drive, calling at Festival Market before terminating at Morecambe Bus Station. Buses will return to Brookhouse via the reverse of the inward route.

    New Links

    The new route provides new links to ASDA and Salt Ayre Leisure Centre from Brookhouse, Caton, Halton, Beaumont, Skerton and Bare as well as a direct service to Morecambe Promenade. It also meets requests from passengers for the service to stop outside the Festival Market and Morrison’s in Morecambe.

    Because of the extra distance to be covered and the additional time this will take, the service will operate every 90 minutes with the first bus from Brookhouse at 07.30 and the last return from Morecambe at 18.45 every day except Sunday and public holidays.

    The new timetable is on this link 83 – Morecambe – Brookhouse – Kirkby Lonsdale Coaches – Bus Times which leads to a timetable showing the main stops. Ticking the “All Stops” box on the left hand side brings up a timetable showing the estimated times at every stop on the route.

    Use it or lose it

    Service 83 already fills a number of gaps in the local bus network identified to Lonsdale Buses by the Bus Users’ Group and the revised route follows up on our suggestions for further improvements. The service is operated on a fullt commercial basis and receives no outside financial support, so its continuation depends on how well it is used. The £3 maximum fare cap applies and Concessionary Passes (NoW Cards) are valid subject to the usual rules.

  • “Bus Times” added to website

    Our website now contains a link to Bus Times.org, a website containing

    • Real Time Locations of all buses in Great Britain, Ireland, and the Isle of Man
    • Timetables for bus services throughout the British Isles
    • Locations, names, photographs, and departure lists of all bus stops
    • Website links to all bus operators.

    Bus Times is an independent and unofficial site, but it surpasses in the breadth and quality of its information anything yet produced by bus operators, local authorities or government departments. It is free to use.

    It is the only website that shows buses of every bus operator, in real time, on a single map and contains links to timetables for every bus route in the UK, plus Ireland and the Isle of Man. On a working day it usually tracks over 25,000 buses of almost 1,000 bus operators calling at around 420,000 bus stops!

    Its bus tracking service is thought by many to be more reliable that those provided in bus companies’ own apps and websites.

    This map – a screenshot from a Sunday morning centered on Lancaster – shows what to expect, with buses from Stagecoach, Lonsdale Buses, Blackpool Transport, Archway, Preston Bus, Blackburn Bus Co and others all shown together on one map. Clicking on a bus icon tells you which service it is operating, where it is, and whether it is on time. There are links to the full timetable for the service and, for those who are interested, details of the bus itself complete with photographs. Zooming in on the map will show the exact location of bus stops, again with photos, and departure lists of buses from the stop with scheduled and real times.

    You can access Bus Times from the menu on this website’s header or from this link: Bus Times.org

  • Dales Bus is back this weekend.

    DalesBus service 80 passes the iconic Ribblehead viaduct on its journey from Lancaster to Hawes (c)DalesBus

    The Summer Saturday DalesBus service from Lancaster to Ingleton, Ribblehead and Hawes in the Yorkshire Dales National Park is making a welcome return from this weekend.

    DalesBus 80 will run every Saturday throughout the summer from 4th April between Lancaster, Hornby, Bentham, Ingleton, Ribblehead Station and Hawes.  Buses leave Lancaster Bus Station at 0900 and 1530 returning from Hawes National Park Centre at 1105 and 1725

    The timetable allows plenty of time to explore Hawes and the surrounding countryside, including the famous Hardraw Force waterfall at the Green Dragon Inn in Hardraw, the Dales Countryside Museum and Wensleydale Creamery.  Onward connections to Leyburn on Wensleydale Voyager minibus 156. DalesBus 80 also provides a useful service for trips to Lancaster and other places along the route.

    DalesBus 80 is operated by Lonsdale Buses as part of the DalesBus network managed by Dales and Bowland Community Interest Company with support from Lancashire County Council and York & North Yorkshire Combined Authority.

    The maximum single fare on the route is £3, under 19s travel for just £1 each way and concessionary bus passes are now valid too.

    Full details of the service are available online at www.dalesbus.org/80 and in leaflets available at Lancaster bus station, Lancaster library and other local outlets

  • Welcome Aboard?

    If you’ve been waiting at the stop on a cold, wet and windy night. there’s nothing more welcome than the sight of a warm and brightly-lit bus coming to pick you up and whisk you off homeward-bound.

    But that wasn’t the experience of passengers on Stagecoach’s 1A yesterday evening around 10pm, who having boarded at Common Garden Street found themselves on a very different sort of bus….

    A bus where:

    The heating was either not working or had been switched off

    Condensation was running down the windows

    The “Next Stop” audio/visual system wasn’t working

    There was litter and plastic bottles on the floor and some of the seats

    The nearside lower-deck lights were switched off and the offside ones dimmed by 50%

    The photo, taken on a mobile phone, if anything exaggerates the amount of light there was on the lower deck and the atmosphere on board was at best unwelcoming and at worst, to a vulnerable person or someone travelling alone, quite threatening.

    No doubt there are excuses (or even valid reasons) for each of these failures, but put together they reflect poorly on the service offered to passengers, who we feel deserve better. If this had been the first time a passenger had used a bus they would be unlikely to make a second journey.

    And this was on one of the newer buses, not one of Manchester’s cast-offs!

  • Real Time Information at the bus stop

    The display at Heysham Towers (c) Graeme Austin

    Reports are coming in of the new real-time information displays that are being erected at bus stops in a number of places in the Lancaster District.

    Being provided with funding from the government through the county council’s Bus Service Improvement Plan, the displays show forthcoming departures from stops and the actual time at which the buses can be expected to arrive.

    So far, they have been seen at Heysham Towers, Euston Road, Morecambe and in Carnforth.

    The displays show the name of the stop and the current time, followed by details of the next six buses due to arrive. Each line shows the service number, destination, arrival time and bus operator for the journey.

    Common sense

    It is unclear as to how far AI (“artificial intelligence) has played a part in the system, but it is good to see that “common sense” has been employed and the screens correctly describe the 755 as going to “Carnforth and Bowness”. This service has to registered in two parts, either side of Carnforth, to get round comply with the rules on working time for drivers, which are different for long-distance services. Many systems can’t cope with this and would erroneously show “Carnforth” as the destination, treating the extension to Bowness as a separate service and causing confusion to anyone expecting a bus to Bowness.

    The bottom line of the display currently confirms that the system is still being tested, but presumably could be used for messages to be displayed to passengers in times of major disruption. As things are still under test, the county council would welcome any feedback and we will be happy to pass on any observations left in the comments below or on our Facebook page.

    Meanwhile…

    Lancaster’s earlier real time information display, at the bus station, has been out of use for some time, but we understand that moves are being made to get it operational again, hopefully before too long,

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Lancaster District Bus Users Group exists to further the interests of bus passengers throughout the Lancaster District, including Morecambe, Heysham, Carnforth and the surrounding rural area.

Membership is open everyone and the subscription is £5 per annum (£2 for Bus Pass holders and students).

You can join either by
 
  • Sending a cheque made payable to Lancaster Bus Users Group to Steve Clarke, 75 Spruce Avenue, Lancaster LA1 5UB together with your full name and contact details  
  • E-mailing office@lancasterbususers.com and asking for details of how to pay us directly by bank transfer
  • Coming along to one of our meetings and paying there by cash or cheque.
  • Meeting dates are shown on the left hand sidebar of this site. 
The membership year runs from January to December, but members joining after 1st October will not have to pay again in January.
 
 
 
We look forward to seeing you soon.